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July 19, 2006

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Steve Goulet

Good post. Now we are getting somewhere! I think Chris Mooney of the American Prospect summarized my feelings surrounding Mann's hockey stick with this statement:

"One study never definitively proves anything in science. Any single study can be attacked and criticized. Any individual piece of work will have its gaps, shortcomings, and associated uncertainties."

And the Wegman report does raise some interesting questions. We certainly need to involve more statisticians and other domains of science in the debate to confirm the consensus. And the peer review process is clearly less valuable if the referees are all former colleagues and collaborators. I welcome a debate on the merits of the science but the science should never be driven by ideology or politics. The Wall Street Journal is certainly not a bastion of unbiased journalism, so I read their commentary with a skeptical eye, just as I would if the NYT were to opine to the contrary.

My reliance on the AGW (anthropogenic global warming) consensus has never hinged on Michael Mann's hockey stick. Here is an aggregation of several similar studies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png

Skeptics will continue their assault on these studies and time will tell if more inaccuracies are exposed. But to me the most compelling scientific evidence surrounding human caused global warming can be found by comparing temperature and carbon dioxide variations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr-2.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Co2-temperature-plot.png

Look at these graphs with an open mind free of ideology and bias. You will see the obvious correlations between CO2 and temperature. Herein lies the heart of the global consensus: Human activities have pushed CO2 levels far beyond any recorded natural cycle. Temperature and CO2 have been proven to be correlated very closely over tens of thousands of years. Do the math.

Steve Goulet

Bill,

You chastised the GR Press (http://localareawatch.typepad.com/the_local_area_watch/2006/06/yeah_and_summer.html) for not reporting that "The NAS was chartered by the U.S. Congress to advise government officials on scientific matters, which in effect means that it exists to tell politicians what they want to hear. So no surprise that the NAS presented no news as new news of global warming at the request of a New York congressman, Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, chairman of the House Science Committee".

The Wegman report was commissioned by the House Energy Committeee, whose leader is a Republican congressman with a staunch record opposing environmental regulation (http://www.issues2000.org/House/Ed_Whitfield.htm). So it's no surprise that the Wegman report on Mann's hockey stick told them exactly what they want to hear, eh? Should we write a letter to the editor of the WSJ to complain about their failure to inform the public of this conflict of interest?

--Steve

The Executive Director

Hi, Steve.

Thank you for your comments. However, our discussion on this particular issue has come to an end. You have repeatedly accused me of ignoring or twisting the facts to fit in with an ideological bias I allegedly have. You have done so for no better reason than I disagree with you about the effect of human activity on the climate. Had you responded to the legitimate questions I raised about the claims of global warming, I'd think differently.

As for the issue of not taking the WSJ to task like I did the Press, the simple reason is that the situations are different. The relationship between the Wegman report and the House Science Committee is self-evident. The committee commissioned the report and its authors are essentially hirelings of the committee. So the reader is on notice to consider the Wegman report critically.

However, the general reader does not know that the National Academy of Sciences is a creature of the U.S. Congress and dependent upon it for its funding. Thus, it is not an independent and disinterested body as is often presumed. That doesn't mean what it reports is tainted by this conflict, anymore than that would be true of the Wegmen report. However, the Press should have informed the reader of the NAS's conflict of interest.

Regards, Bill

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