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November 10, 2005

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Bart Williams

"Only when their financial problems caught up with Amway in the early ‘90s were they forced to put an outside director on the board of Amway to keep the books honest. That position was promptly eliminated once they successfully restructured Amway, with the assistance of the Fixer’s firm, into Alticor and Quixtar – and the outsiders were kept at bay once again."

Hmmm, that's interesting.

But then five seconds of research reveals this: http://www.alticor.com/people/board_directors.html . It seems there ARE still outside board members. They probably don't exist in real life though--the black helicopters flew away with them, with "The Fixer" as one of the pilots! It's clearly all a sham to steal more money from the people of "River City." Keep fighting The Man, Billy--the Voices in Your Head cheer you on!

Regards,
Bart Williams
Executive Director
The Thousands of Voices in Your Head

The Executive Director

Thanks for the information, Mr. Williams/Anonymous. My statement was based upon Alticor's corporate filings with the state.

But let's say, for the sake of argument, that Alticor is a board-driven corporation with geniunely independent outside directors on it. That means Alticor is still not out of the woods yet with its financiers. So the problem with Quixtar's declining revenues is an even bigger problem.

The Executive Director

Lori

so,should i called the cops for this Quixtar people comin to my door?
i think they should be charge for doin this if it's a scam.
And poor people that works for them not knowing their been used.
so,is'nt it pretty much the same thing or kind of like what Martha Stewart did?
I really want to know and i need help,cause i just got suckerd in.
I just now found out tryin to see more about their website.
What should i do?

The Executive Director

Lori,

My complaint against Amway/Quixtar is that it's business is unethical, even if the FTC declared it legal. The fact that it is unethical does not make it any less of wrongful and shameful business than if it were illegal. All it means is that the law is limited as to what it will do against Amway/Quixtar.

So that means it is up to us as private citizens to act against the vile business of Amway/Quixtar. I do that by laying out the true nature of the business for all to see.

That said, the fact that the FTC has declared the Amway/Quixtar MLM scheme to be legal does not give those involved with it a green light to make misrepresentations and false statements to others. If you agreed to a transaction with Amway/Quixtar because one of their people made a false statement to you, you may have recourse against them.

However, the police will not do anything because they will deem it a civil matter. Unfortunately, the only realistic way for you to proceed if you believe you are a victim of fraud is to contact an attorney. I wish I had more encouraging advice for you.

Regards,
Bill Tingley

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