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August 24, 2005

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C

Funny how you make a point of bashing the Press at every turn, but you don't acknowledge your source material for this story. Poor double standard, Bill.

You did the same thing with the teachers pay story.
Like any blogger, you should be citing the articles that are the source for your rants.

The Executive Director

Dear C,

I am flattered that you regard the Local Area Watch as a serious news organization that needs to adhere to the exacting (chuckle) standards that the Press sets for itself.

Upon reflection I probably should have mentioned that SOME of the information I used in the "Double-Dipping" story came from the Press's survey -- a rare instance of investigative journalism on its part. However, like most of my articles, I rely upon information I collected myself and from public records, general news sources, etc.

"The Fixer" series for example is all my own spade work, and should have been one of the major ongoing newstories carried by the Press over the past decade. But I see you have overlooked that to nit-pick on the few times I have to rely general news sources FOR COMMENTARY like any other ordinary citizen.

Regards,
Bill Tingley
The Executive Director

Barbara Thomas

Double-dipping is rampant in the Detroit Public School system!!

The Executive Director

Hi, Barbara.

Thanks for the information. I wish I could say I was surprised. Have you alerted Channel 7 or the Detroit News about this problem?

Regards,
Bill Tingley
Executive Director

Whats Your Problem?

So let me get this straight...

A school board is in need of administrators no matter who fills the roll.

A new administrator has to be paid both his salary (which I believe to be too high) and his benefits. By the way what you reported about pensions be $50k is innacurate, it can be AS HIGH as $50k. In most cases it is 1/4 of the salary earned while under contract. This is what we're dealing with; 100k a year salary with a pension plan worth 1/4 of that value upon retirement.

So an administrator retires and "double dips". He is now making $75,000/ year w/o a pension being accrued. Say he's collecting his pension that was 1/4 of what he had made during his administration. This adds up to?...$100k.

So what your saying is paying an administrator 100k/year + benefits and accruing a pension is cheaper than paying an experienced consultant 100k/year straight out the door?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that does sound like it's saving the taxpayers the pain of paying this person both salary and benefits, it also saves them the problems of having to bear through a rookie administrators mistakes.

Help me out here, I'm hoping I'm not understanding you right. Because if I am you're bitching at the wrong aspect of how much administrators are paid.

The real problem starts with their salaries. Up until a few years ago the president of the united states was paid $200,000/year, theres no way in hell an educator should ever get that kind of coin. The responsibilities aren't the same.

They're paid way too much, but double dipping seems like a way of making the load lighter for the tax payers.

The Executive Director

Dear Anonymous,

You're making this too complicated. If a bureaucrat wants to continue doing his job, then he shouldn't take a pension while doing it. If he wants to retire, then he retires and he's off the payroll for good. That's where the savings to taxpayers comes in by preventing double-dipping.

And yes, you're right, they are overpaid. But until the taxpayers revolt, that's not likely to change.

Regards,
Bill Tingley
Executive Director

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